Mthulisi Mathuthu

Mthulisi Mathuthu is a Zimbabwean journalist. He is hooked on Russian literature and also enjoys the works of John Maxwell Coetzee, Eduardo Galeano and Salman Rushdie. He is an A-Z on Afro-jazz and has recently taken a keen interest in issues of climate change and international development. In Jose Mourinho, he sees his ideal self: "a character who doesn't care about anybody but gets things going for himself". E-mail: thuthuma@yahoo.com

South Africa: still a land of many possibilities

THERE is something paradoxical about South Africa which will perhaps never go, at least not in our lifetime: no matter what publicity the country gets, life goes on and they survive, dance, drink, laugh, play and still attract millions of visitors, both the wanted and unwelcome, from all over the world.
 
During the dying days of Apartheid, the chilling scenes of street violence and police brutality were not enough to deter thousands of people from Southern and Central Africa from flocking south of the Limpopo.
 
In 1992, two hours after national television had showed images of the Boipatong carnage, I accompanied a high school friend Thabani Zondo to catch a mini bus to Johannesburg. I have not seen nor heard from him since.
 
In Zimbabwe, not only is South Africa the Holy Grail, but virtually every household has two or three members who either live or have died there.
 
Not even the tales of the scourge of HIV/AIDS nor the 2008 xenophobic attacks which swept through the country were enough to stop the southwards human traffic. Come what may, many are still ready to brave the crocodiles and cross the Limpopo River to sneak under razor wire (one of South Africa’s inventions) just to get to Jozi, as Johannesburg is known.
 
Such is the magnetic nature of South Africa which might as well serve as a confidence booster that they will successfully host the 2010 World Cup, a possibility which many are still labouring to scupper. After all didn’t they win independence at a time when everybody predicted bloodbath? Didn’t they initially lose the 2006 World Cup bid only to win some years later?
 
Returning to Cape Town after my last visit seven years ago, I got a glimpse of what makes the Rainbow Nation attractive and what might possibly explain why they will succeed yet again amid doubts.
 
I landed at the Cape Town International Airport on an SA flight from London exhausted, hoping for a quick dash through the immigration formalities so I could take a nap at my hotel. Moreover, I longed for the African sunshine being from frozen England.
 
First, my luggage took too long to come through and just as I was dragging it out, some customs official beckoned me aside to check my passport and my bag. Where was I going? What was inside my bag, whose was this and that inside the bag? It was like an Apartheid officer questioning a native.
 
In no time, he led me to a small room whereupon he emptied my bag, turned it upside down and felt with his hands if nothing was hidden somewhere in the invisible pockets. Unsatisfied, he emptied the bag completely and ran it through a scanner which identified a small object stashed into the backside sliding pocket. Excitedly, and almost drooling, he ordered me to remove it and I quickly obliged to whip out my small hard covered notebook which I had purchased at Heathrow.
 
"That’s it mate, welcome to South Africa," he said, leaving me to pack my bag.
 
I felt degraded, and by the time I got out, my friend was already worried and when he asked about the delay, I simply brushed it aside and said I was waiting for the luggage.
 
Next was for me to buy the sim-card for my phone. Again, they needed my passport and images not just to register my number but to place against every pound note I changed! Not only had the Cape Town Airport changed since my last visit but the way of conducting business had undergone something of a revolution. Previously, one could just purchase the mobile phone starter pack from any grocer and change it anytime, and one could change their money without problems as long it wasn’t travellers’ cheques.
 
Finally we were in the sunshine. The sun stood alone in the clear blue sky pouring out its heat as viciously as a jilted lover on a revenge mission.
 
As we drove to the hotel, I was not just feeling the strain of the heat and changes in the South African way of doing things, but the prejudice. Why should it be painful to change just £50? Why was I searched like a suicide bomber? I asked myself. Moreover I had laboured to obtained the visa in London, where you need to submit copious documents which make the Bible look like a Pacesetter novel.
 
On switching on the TV at my hotel, I got the answer: Security! A whole range of football people from across Europe had lined up to raise issues of security and cast doubt on the safety of footballers during the June show in South Africa following the shooting incident involving the Togolese team at Africa Cup of Nations in Angola.
 
If the shooting in Angola, many miles away from South Africa, could raise so much hullaballoo and cast doubt on South Africa’s capacity to host an incident-free event, one can only understand why they must not leave a stone unturned. Imagine what would happen to South Africa’s image and that of the rest of the region if a shooting were to take place, or a bomb were to go off killing footballers and the dignitaries?
 
This is a country which knows what tragedy, failure and pain mean and hence every effort not to sleep-walk into yet another conundrum.
 
South Africa is also a country which can undergo some collective soul searching, and perhaps nothing epitomises this than the reform from the dark era to democracy and the fight they put to win 2010 after the 2006 disappointment. I will never forget listening to Lawrence Dube playing Ray Phiri and Stimela’s ‘Tell me where did we go wrong’ after South Africa lost the 2006 bid to Germany.
 
And yet as South Africa strives to avert carnage, the country seems to have overlooked its one major strength — the timeless attractiveness of the Rainbow Nation which not even the mighty of Apartheid and many other un-pleasantries, some of which are still present to day, could deform.
 
There is just too much to parade, and yet there are some missing billboards and words. When the likes of Hull City Manager Phil Brown and the Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness spew their bigoted bile, the South Africans simply need to whip out their 4,344,136 vuvuzelas and drown the senseless World Cup concerns.
 
When their security measures are questioned, they don’t just need to search visiting journalists but they also need to parade their credentials in peace. This is a country with four Nobel Peace Prize winners — three of them still alive.
 
Why worry about bad press when they can use their own wordsmiths of global stature? They have two Nobel Prize winners of literature and both of them are still alive — John Maxwell Coetzee and Nadine Gordimer.
 
Why not a billboard on all these luminaries at the Oliver Tambo International or in Cape Town? It could, perhaps, read something like: ‘South Africa 2010 — we have Nobels in Peace’.
 
Just to step into South Africa and walk around is to meet the world. In Cape Town not only the Atlantic and the Indian Oceans meet but people flow in as a river into the sea. There are stunning beaches where you can relax and splash with people from all over the world before you set out for dinner, provided you survive a shark attack (during the week I was there, a Zimbabwean man was eaten by a shark and nothing but his goggles were recovered).
 
Cape Town’s Water Front stands unmatched. Here, food, fashion, craft, entertainment, education and drink collide. Nothing beats the view of the Table Mountain while sitting engrossed in a discussion and watching the tame sea lions stagger out of the water to sunbath. It’s not only the affluent who eat here.
 
My friend told me of a must-see barbeque spot somewhere right in the heart of the Gugulethu Township. I know about this township for giving us Afro-pop singer Ringo Madlingozi, and the so-called Gugulethu Seven shooting as well as the "reconciliation tree" which I saw at one primary school when I last visited in 2003.
 
On our way, we cut through some affluent suburbs with vast irrigated loans like we were in Sydney, except here they lay side-by-side with collapsing shacks. South Africa is a land of contradictions: infinite wealth and immeasurable poverty lie side-by-side, like finding a beauty queen intimate with an elderly leper.
 
If you thought the Water Front was for the white people, as some young Capetonians disturbingly kept saying at my hotel, then you must visit Mzoli’s Meat, as the barbeque spot in Gugulethu is called. Here tourists from as far as Europe park their cars along the township roads just to eat. During the weekends, I am told, the place teems with trendy people in a way that would rival Melville in Johannesburg.
 
There are many such places in South Africa where people eat boerewors (another SA invention), pap and meat. One such place is in Ivory Park, Johannesburg, where I ended my trip. After the barbeque in Thembisa, the Sunday I left, we had a mini afternoon bash in Midrand, where I was staying, dancing to latest kwaito and house music. It was painful to leave right in the middle of a dance party full of professionals — accountants, journalists, engineers and business people. I couldn’t bring myself to accept that I had to leave shisanyama, as barbeque is called, here into the freezing England.
 
At the airport, I bought my last Castle Lager and thought silently. This is the land of many possibilities. If there is the Water Front, there is Mzoli’s, if there is Khayelitsha Township, there is Constantia and Sandton, if there is Eugene Terreblanche, there is Nelson Mandela, if there are 48 million people there are 11 languages, if there is a razorwire there is the Simunye and Ubuntu concepts, if there is Robben Island there is the Bill of Rights. The possibilities are limitless.
 
I had not yet finished my beer when I noticed that our flight was going to be delayed by three hours. After those three hours came the news of a cancellation, meaning we had to put up at some hotel. We were told the South African Airways plane had a blocked loo!
 
Queuing for the bus outside after reclaiming our luggage, I overheard an elderly lady saying: ‘Come the World Cup, I think there will be chaos.’ Disappointed as I was with the cancellation of the flight, and for having to wait out there like I was at Park Station waiting for buses to Harare, I wished I had a vuvuzela. ‘Awulethi ivuvuzela yami,’ I said in my mind. Yet another billboard, I thought to myself, and smiled as I opened my pack of nuts to crunch away.
  • lehlohonolo

    masterpiece ‘South Africa is a land of contradictions: infinite wealth and immeasurable poverty lie side-by-side, like finding a beauty queen intimate with an elderly leper’.

    What makes South Africa despite all its challenges is love. The people really appreciate each other and it is the society of love that has produced the mandelas, zumas, tutus etc particularly in the black community. Enter Zim a community of hate where one gets priviledges because they belong to a certain ethnic group or are a distant cousin of the president. I guess the proffessionals you were dancing with were a diverse lot and never complained about whether the DJ played Sotho or Xhosa music. Enter Zim a DJ can be beaten up or even killed for playing certain music. Young 16 year old south africa has a lot to teach the 30year old Zimbabwe.

  • lehlohonolo

    masterpiece ‘South Africa is a land of contradictions: infinite wealth and immeasurable poverty lie side-by-side, like finding a beauty queen intimate with an elderly leper’.

    What makes South Africa despite all its challenges is love. The people really appreciate each other and it is the society of love that has produced the mandelas, zumas, tutus etc particularly in the black community. Enter Zim a community of hate where one gets priviledges because they belong to a certain ethnic group or are a distant cousin of the president. I guess the proffessionals you were dancing with were a diverse lot and never complained about whether the DJ played Sotho or Xhosa music. Enter Zim a DJ can be beaten up or even killed for playing certain music. Young 16 year old south africa has a lot to teach the 30year old Zimbabwe.

  • http://CityofKings Mzilikazi KaMashobana

    What a good article……Keep them coming Thuthuzela!!!

  • http://rumbi MKWENHA

    Lehlohonolo you hate Zimbabweans because how they are , they are more educated than your pple they are more wiser than your pple. Why is it Zulus and Xhosa are allways fighting why is it in areas like kwa Tembisa you are given boundaries same with SOWETO is that love tell me lehlohonolo you talk about DJ being killed for playing certain music why do you lie you are such a lier, Zimbabweans are much much more educated than the S.Africans thats why most high jobs in S.Africa are run by ZIMBABEANS, DONT HATE US FOR OUR KNOWLEDGE.

  • Davita

    Lehlohonolo, you need to do your research and check statistics before you write. SA has the highest murders/rape cases in the world. Six women are raped every minute in SA, Barangwanath hospital’ A & E units cannot cope with people with gunshot/knife wounds such that the queues spiral into corridors and eventually outside the buildings. Its so sad that you interpret that as love. Just go on you YouTube you will find what I’m talking about.

  • Davita

    Lehlohonolo, you need to do your research and check statistics before you write. SA has the highest murders/rape cases in the world. Six women are raped every minute in SA, Barangwanath hospital’ A & E units cannot cope with people with gunshot/knife wounds such that the queues spiral into corridors and eventually outside the buildings. Its so sad that you interpret that as love. Just go on you YouTube you will find what I’m talking about.

  • SDA

    Been to a few SA parties. They play house music from dusk till dawn. Nothing else. Change the music at your own risk. Thats love I guess. I love SA. But the people need to open their eyes. Your African brothers helped you get liberated.we are not the enemy!!!!!

  • SDA

    Been to a few SA parties. They play house music from dusk till dawn. Nothing else. Change the music at your own risk. Thats love I guess. I love SA. But the people need to open their eyes. Your African brothers helped you get liberated.we are not the enemy!!!!!

  • Baba Razaro

    I am not sure whether you are telling the truth, Fiction?? Zimbos do not need visas to come to Mzanzi, neither do the British. Which passport are you on? You talk of Togo stuff its quite recent way after SA had dropped visa demand for Zimbos. The British never require visas so your visa application is imaginery.

  • Baba Razaro

    I am not sure whether you are telling the truth, Fiction?? Zimbos do not need visas to come to Mzanzi, neither do the British. Which passport are you on? You talk of Togo stuff its quite recent way after SA had dropped visa demand for Zimbos. The British never require visas so your visa application is imaginery.

  • Tate Sigubu

    Excellent and well written article. I lived in South Africa for 5 yrs and you have just renewed my love for that great and glorious country.

  • Tate Sigubu

    Excellent and well written article. I lived in South Africa for 5 yrs and you have just renewed my love for that great and glorious country.

  • Mina futhi

    hOLA,

    #i CAN SEE YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Go to the South African embassy and say you want to go to SA with your British passport uzazizwela.

  • Mina futhi

    hOLA,

    #i CAN SEE YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Go to the South African embassy and say you want to go to SA with your British passport uzazizwela.

  • mgubane

    At Mkhwenha, You are talking trash there’s millions of zimbabweans in south africa that we are accomodating as we speak maybe even a member of your family is in the land of he un educated, to tell you something miss/sir/mrs we are very educated you can’t judge the south africans with the one’s you meet in the uk/us we have top universities in south africa loads of young black professionals, just because your’ll as zimbabweans have access to free education as assylum seekers around the world that does’nt mean your’ll are better and for your info south africa is 1 of da most successfull country in africa and around the world and that a country of the un educated f*ck you a joke you know dat, we are feeding your people back in south africajust so you know, and for your info i’m a south african and my best friend is a zimbabwean(shona) and he is sooo not ignorent like you, FACT SOUTH AFRICA WILL NEVER NEVER BE LIKE ZIMBABWE NOT MATTER WHAT AND I PRAY TO MY LIVING GOD THAT ZIMBABWE WILL BE A BETTER COUNTRY TOMORROW..THIS IS MY SOUTH AFRICA.

  • mgubane

    At Mkhwenha, You are talking trash there’s millions of zimbabweans in south africa that we are accomodating as we speak maybe even a member of your family is in the land of he un educated, to tell you something miss/sir/mrs we are very educated you can’t judge the south africans with the one’s you meet in the uk/us we have top universities in south africa loads of young black professionals, just because your’ll as zimbabweans have access to free education as assylum seekers around the world that does’nt mean your’ll are better and for your info south africa is 1 of da most successfull country in africa and around the world and that a country of the un educated f*ck you a joke you know dat, we are feeding your people back in south africajust so you know, and for your info i’m a south african and my best friend is a zimbabwean(shona) and he is sooo not ignorent like you, FACT SOUTH AFRICA WILL NEVER NEVER BE LIKE ZIMBABWE NOT MATTER WHAT AND I PRAY TO MY LIVING GOD THAT ZIMBABWE WILL BE A BETTER COUNTRY TOMORROW..THIS IS MY SOUTH AFRICA.

  • lehlohonolo

    Davida and Mkwenha:

    About crime Zim must be the last to comment.
    1.) In Zim crime is institutionalised e.g. green bombers,police,ministers and the army rape and kill people and it doesnt go to court.
    2.) The president is a thug kills, maims, rapes, starves and is called educated.
    3.) UK, SA, USA, CANADA Zimbabeans constitute the highest numbers of the prison population for faud, murder etc. Of course sometimes they compete with Jamaica and nigeria. But in SA they are more than the locals.
    4.) You know why, its because of the hate that comes from the so called educated people. Again what does Zim have to show for its education? the ruins that it is?
    5.) Pompousness and education are two different things. It is a blatant lie that Zims are educated more than South Africans.-First the number of SA universities can produce graduates who are actually the total population of Zim in 5years.-and they have all existed for more than 30years not to mention the millions that have always been in exile.
    6. Anyone who has attended institutions of repute like Stanford, MIT, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge will tell you that there are always 20 South Africans for 1 Zimbabwean. In fact its SA, Kenya, Tunisia and then Zimbabwe. First heart surgery SA. Zim first ruined economy and country without own currency.
    4.)

  • lehlohonolo

    Davida and Mkwenha:

    About crime Zim must be the last to comment.
    1.) In Zim crime is institutionalised e.g. green bombers,police,ministers and the army rape and kill people and it doesnt go to court.
    2.) The president is a thug kills, maims, rapes, starves and is called educated.
    3.) UK, SA, USA, CANADA Zimbabeans constitute the highest numbers of the prison population for faud, murder etc. Of course sometimes they compete with Jamaica and nigeria. But in SA they are more than the locals.
    4.) You know why, its because of the hate that comes from the so called educated people. Again what does Zim have to show for its education? the ruins that it is?
    5.) Pompousness and education are two different things. It is a blatant lie that Zims are educated more than South Africans.-First the number of SA universities can produce graduates who are actually the total population of Zim in 5years.-and they have all existed for more than 30years not to mention the millions that have always been in exile.
    6. Anyone who has attended institutions of repute like Stanford, MIT, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge will tell you that there are always 20 South Africans for 1 Zimbabwean. In fact its SA, Kenya, Tunisia and then Zimbabwe. First heart surgery SA. Zim first ruined economy and country without own currency.
    4.)

  • mgubane

    shore lehlohonolo this busterds are fucken jelous their heart’s are bleeding with hate and jealousy but hey that te way things are let just live dam cause that da only thing dat makes dam feel gud about themselves…eishhh South africa rocks and dat a fact

  • mgubane

    shore lehlohonolo this busterds are fucken jelous their heart’s are bleeding with hate and jealousy but hey that te way things are let just live dam cause that da only thing dat makes dam feel gud about themselves…eishhh South africa rocks and dat a fact

  • Mkhululi Maphosa

    Uyitshaye ekhanda Mathuthu, SA can be frustrating. I also flew from Dublin to JHB via Paris. Got pulled aside by customs, was the only Black person in that flight and happened to be the only one searched! Coming back, I flew from Harare to Jhb before getting my connecting flight to Dublin, same story with a diff customs official. Bantu weh. Its so sad to be discriminated by yo fellow black Africans. South African blacks still have a lot to learn.

  • Mkhululi Maphosa

    Uyitshaye ekhanda Mathuthu, SA can be frustrating. I also flew from Dublin to JHB via Paris. Got pulled aside by customs, was the only Black person in that flight and happened to be the only one searched! Coming back, I flew from Harare to Jhb before getting my connecting flight to Dublin, same story with a diff customs official. Bantu weh. Its so sad to be discriminated by yo fellow black Africans. South African blacks still have a lot to learn.

  • ndanetanezanu

    Author may have exaggerated a little on the status of S.A. Could be biased because of his Ndebele background? It is no secret that S.A has high rates of poverty among indigenous black, high crime, high rate of xenophobia, etc. Nevertheless, i agree with him that it is a very developed country thanks to the white people that built it to what it is. Lets also not forget that there are a large number of Zimbabwean professionals and other Africans that are running many institutions in S.A as-well. It is no secret as well that S.As blacks are not very educated and thus the unprofessionalism you experience when you encounter them anywhere you do business in S.A.

  • ndanetanezanu

    Author may have exaggerated a little on the status of S.A. Could be biased because of his Ndebele background? It is no secret that S.A has high rates of poverty among indigenous black, high crime, high rate of xenophobia, etc. Nevertheless, i agree with him that it is a very developed country thanks to the white people that built it to what it is. Lets also not forget that there are a large number of Zimbabwean professionals and other Africans that are running many institutions in S.A as-well. It is no secret as well that S.As blacks are not very educated and thus the unprofessionalism you experience when you encounter them anywhere you do business in S.A.

  • http://rumbi Lidia-moto

    I feel sick with idiots like lehlohonolo he started from nowhere attacking Zimbabweans, and i dont think himself is a S.African i know you are a Zimbabwean from the other side you know the side i am talking about. ZIMBABWEANS ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE and we are peacy loving nation regardless of our politcal problems we proved to be strong we stood by our Country 24 seven.People like lehlohohohohoooooo what ever your name is are just bitter about ZIMBOS FOR NO REASON, we come to S.Africa to sell our staff and go back we are not feed by your Gvmnt ZIMBOS are hardworking we work we dont stEAL or commit crimes or froud as you said, those who are committing crimes are pple like you lehlobobono who pretend tobe S.Africans myself iam proud to be Zimbabwean. You talked about UNVERSITIES in S.Africa i dont deny that we have them also in our country not one and they are full of stundents if you want go to CANADA NEWZEALAND,AUSTRALIA,AMERICA, UK and other countries Zimbabweans are studing in large numbers, lehlonondondo what ever your name if you have got a case with Mugabe talk to him why do you want to involve other pple thts very bad fear GOD. i tell you what the young generation in zimbabwe one-in three got a DEGREE SAY WHAT YOU WANT I DONT CARE.

  • http://rumbi JERRY NCUBE

    PLEASE CAN YOU PLIZ STOP ALL THE FUSS ABOUT ZIMBABWE, LEHLOHONOLO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WILL JUDGE YOU,

  • SDA

    Eff all these foolss. Zim is what it is. But SA is no better. I am married to a SA girl so I know. I have been there a few times as well. These shack dwelling people know nothing. We had to go through this to be great. In SA ,white people still run everything. Black people are just workers and labourers. Whats the point if you dont own your means of production.During apertheid our house was a refuge for Sa people. We had whole neighbourhoods of them. Weeven got bombed coz of them. Now litsen to them. Ungrateful people. In Zim our battle is almost over…yours is just beginning. Now go back and clean your shack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • SDA

    Eff all these foolss. Zim is what it is. But SA is no better. I am married to a SA girl so I know. I have been there a few times as well. These shack dwelling people know nothing. We had to go through this to be great. In SA ,white people still run everything. Black people are just workers and labourers. Whats the point if you dont own your means of production.During apertheid our house was a refuge for Sa people. We had whole neighbourhoods of them. Weeven got bombed coz of them. Now litsen to them. Ungrateful people. In Zim our battle is almost over…yours is just beginning. Now go back and clean your shack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • lehlohonolo

    Lidia and Jerry Ncube, I have never ever said I am S. African, if you have read my posts here you will know clearly and you will know my position. Zimbabweans(majority) are full of hate. I know truth hurts and I will not be apologetic. I also resist the construct of being Zimbabwean, I will rather make do with I was born in a country called Zimbabwe. You have to tell me who is Zimbabwean, when does a Zimbabwean begin to exist. Is it my birth, is it my ancestory or I choose my own identity. What is Claude Makelele is he a French international or a Congolese international? In fact let me not digress, Zim cannot compare to South Africa. Even during the apartheid era more than a million Zimbabweans were all ready refugees in SA either running away from Gukurahundi or going eWenela. south Africa is running the economies of Moza, Botswana, Matebeleland(Kezi, Plumtree, Tsholotsho etc), Namibia. It will not change, OK rich black in Zim vs Rich White in SA. Whats the situation, compare and contrast. There are of course some imbalances in SA and they will not be solved overnight. Its a 15year old democracy!There is a lot I can say, but SIMPLY ZIM cant compare, compete etc and you both know why and you will like an strich bury your heads in the sand and hope for the best!

  • lehlohonolo

    Lidia and Jerry Ncube, I have never ever said I am S. African, if you have read my posts here you will know clearly and you will know my position. Zimbabweans(majority) are full of hate. I know truth hurts and I will not be apologetic. I also resist the construct of being Zimbabwean, I will rather make do with I was born in a country called Zimbabwe. You have to tell me who is Zimbabwean, when does a Zimbabwean begin to exist. Is it my birth, is it my ancestory or I choose my own identity. What is Claude Makelele is he a French international or a Congolese international? In fact let me not digress, Zim cannot compare to South Africa. Even during the apartheid era more than a million Zimbabweans were all ready refugees in SA either running away from Gukurahundi or going eWenela. south Africa is running the economies of Moza, Botswana, Matebeleland(Kezi, Plumtree, Tsholotsho etc), Namibia. It will not change, OK rich black in Zim vs Rich White in SA. Whats the situation, compare and contrast. There are of course some imbalances in SA and they will not be solved overnight. Its a 15year old democracy!There is a lot I can say, but SIMPLY ZIM cant compare, compete etc and you both know why and you will like an strich bury your heads in the sand and hope for the best!

  • masauso

    I think Lehlohonolo you better just shut up because what you are saying is pretty obvious and true. These people are just stubborn. You can see that they are a jealous lot who wish Mzansi to go the way of Dzimbabwe ruins. Phela nalemikhukhu yakhona if you go there the people that stay there are Mozambicans and Zimbabweans. south Africans are given free RDP houses!!!Ungamoshi iskhathi sakoh Lehlohonolo

  • masauso

    I think Lehlohonolo you better just shut up because what you are saying is pretty obvious and true. These people are just stubborn. You can see that they are a jealous lot who wish Mzansi to go the way of Dzimbabwe ruins. Phela nalemikhukhu yakhona if you go there the people that stay there are Mozambicans and Zimbabweans. south Africans are given free RDP houses!!!Ungamoshi iskhathi sakoh Lehlohonolo

  • bahle

    i think zimbabweans are a bit jelouse of our country and its okay i mean we are hosting the world cup,beautiful developing country ,lots and lots of tourist and yes we have the high crime rate thanx to zimbabweans lol we have thousands and thousands of illegal foreigners and if zimbabweans are so educated more than south africans why cant they remaine in their country and make it a better place, how many south africans live in zimbabwe , dont know any cos they’ll be mad to move to such a country, how many zim are in south africa or any other developed or developing country thousands and thousand and they are either on benefits or unemployed and increasing the crime rate, we cant really compare zim;s and mzansi people we love you zims thats why we have your sisters and moms as our maids and your brother and dads as our gardners so they can send money home to help yall, and hey i really dont blame those people at the airport zims have a bad reputation in s.africa…

  • bahle

    i think zimbabweans are a bit jelouse of our country and its okay i mean we are hosting the world cup,beautiful developing country ,lots and lots of tourist and yes we have the high crime rate thanx to zimbabweans lol we have thousands and thousands of illegal foreigners and if zimbabweans are so educated more than south africans why cant they remaine in their country and make it a better place, how many south africans live in zimbabwe , dont know any cos they’ll be mad to move to such a country, how many zim are in south africa or any other developed or developing country thousands and thousand and they are either on benefits or unemployed and increasing the crime rate, we cant really compare zim;s and mzansi people we love you zims thats why we have your sisters and moms as our maids and your brother and dads as our gardners so they can send money home to help yall, and hey i really dont blame those people at the airport zims have a bad reputation in s.africa…

  • mgubane

    article is credible,and you reported what you actually experienced,thats 1st hand reporting.Im a south african,typical Sowatan, based in Uk last 7yrs now.I have learnt to leave and bond with fellow neighbours(Zims,Batswana,Swazis,Basotho) here in UK.All i could say, we have more or less common cultural backround.It has became neglegible to identify southrns according to country of origin.We hv formed our own,State of Southrn Afrcns in UK,wich made us unique.We r ONE !
    I get very dissappointed by some comments frm our southrn black brothers n sisters being so negetive about SA hosting 1 of the 2 biggest world tournament. SA is not a war zone,crime happenning in SA is crime happening anywhere in the world.Pls read about crime rate in Brazil,dat has hosted,and that wil stil host the tournament. If not SA,you negetive africans, pls suggest 1 african country that you thing has the less crime rate, ideal climate,best infrastructure and stable economy.Nigeria is one of the leading african country but it is nowhere near to SA interms of basic requirements to host. I am a SA, i have been hijacked 2x in 7yrs.I have been in UK,my house broken into 2x, my car stolen once,my girlfrend surrendered his mobile fone 2 da thieves in north London(Stratford), all in 7yrs. WTF,is wrong with fellow afrcn brothers not supporting and giving props to the great attempt SA is engaging on. There’s >3million illegal Zims in SA frm stats released 2008.Most of recent crimes,buglaris,car hijackings,ATM fraud/Cash in transit heists…most ppl caught r non SA’s. Google the last Thibo Tach(metro) house break in,Some of the murderers of legend Lucky dube,the list is endless..but inspite of 2008 xhenophobic attacks, we stil embrace our fellow illegal southrns.when did u last heard of xhenophic attacks?
    This world cup wont only benefit or excite SAs only. Now some of us Southrn afrcns will get an opportunity to attend this prestigious event, wich never thot we would get a chance to see LIVE. The tickets sales for SAs hav now been reduced from >R800 to about R180, frm info i got this week. Wich is gr8t news
    Ppl stop hating fellow africans,support the efforts. We should be ambassodors to our regions, but instead you are selling us out,to the imperialists who r very sour that we took the chance to host away frm them. Running to this event has made me hate UK,as their tru colors of greed and direspecting africans,came out clear. They dont want wealth to come to africans, but to them 1st,then they fools us with remnants. LET US NOT BE SELL OUTS TO THE IMPERIALISTS. LETS UNITE RUNNING TO THIS EVENT,and we keep our AFRICAN continents PROUD. AFRIKA IS THE FUTURE, AND THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!

  • mgubane

    article is credible,and you reported what you actually experienced,thats 1st hand reporting.Im a south african,typical Sowatan, based in Uk last 7yrs now.I have learnt to leave and bond with fellow neighbours(Zims,Batswana,Swazis,Basotho) here in UK.All i could say, we have more or less common cultural backround.It has became neglegible to identify southrns according to country of origin.We hv formed our own,State of Southrn Afrcns in UK,wich made us unique.We r ONE !
    I get very dissappointed by some comments frm our southrn black brothers n sisters being so negetive about SA hosting 1 of the 2 biggest world tournament. SA is not a war zone,crime happenning in SA is crime happening anywhere in the world.Pls read about crime rate in Brazil,dat has hosted,and that wil stil host the tournament. If not SA,you negetive africans, pls suggest 1 african country that you thing has the less crime rate, ideal climate,best infrastructure and stable economy.Nigeria is one of the leading african country but it is nowhere near to SA interms of basic requirements to host. I am a SA, i have been hijacked 2x in 7yrs.I have been in UK,my house broken into 2x, my car stolen once,my girlfrend surrendered his mobile fone 2 da thieves in north London(Stratford), all in 7yrs. WTF,is wrong with fellow afrcn brothers not supporting and giving props to the great attempt SA is engaging on. There’s >3million illegal Zims in SA frm stats released 2008.Most of recent crimes,buglaris,car hijackings,ATM fraud/Cash in transit heists…most ppl caught r non SA’s. Google the last Thibo Tach(metro) house break in,Some of the murderers of legend Lucky dube,the list is endless..but inspite of 2008 xhenophobic attacks, we stil embrace our fellow illegal southrns.when did u last heard of xhenophic attacks?
    This world cup wont only benefit or excite SAs only. Now some of us Southrn afrcns will get an opportunity to attend this prestigious event, wich never thot we would get a chance to see LIVE. The tickets sales for SAs hav now been reduced from >R800 to about R180, frm info i got this week. Wich is gr8t news
    Ppl stop hating fellow africans,support the efforts. We should be ambassodors to our regions, but instead you are selling us out,to the imperialists who r very sour that we took the chance to host away frm them. Running to this event has made me hate UK,as their tru colors of greed and direspecting africans,came out clear. They dont want wealth to come to africans, but to them 1st,then they fools us with remnants. LET US NOT BE SELL OUTS TO THE IMPERIALISTS. LETS UNITE RUNNING TO THIS EVENT,and we keep our AFRICAN continents PROUD. AFRIKA IS THE FUTURE, AND THE FUTURE IS HERE!!!

  • http://southafrica mpintshi

    lehlohonolo u r one of e most stupid pple i hv to leave on ths earth ,, as above mentiond get yr facts straight b 4 u write,,, talkin about violance in zimbo r u serious ,, in sa walkin around after 6pm is a death wish! talkin abt luv!!!!!!!!!!! jus to show hw damn u r! luv doesnt discriminate .. luv zimbo as much as u luv southafrican then u cn start talkin abt it ,, AS 4 NW SHUT E FUCK UP !IDIOT

  • lehlohonolo

    I am sorry that I have made a lot of people angry. Sorry but I cant help it nnete yababa. Its the truth unless mpintshi proves to me the that people in SA sleep at 6pm. I have lived in SA for half of my life and people actually start getting busy at 10pm. Just like what I have seen in Paris, New York and Leeds. Masauso I take your advise I wont say anything. Keaema mo! I myt be called further names which are more of a reflection of the name-callers. Its called projection.

  • lehlohonolo

    I am sorry that I have made a lot of people angry. Sorry but I cant help it nnete yababa. Its the truth unless mpintshi proves to me the that people in SA sleep at 6pm. I have lived in SA for half of my life and people actually start getting busy at 10pm. Just like what I have seen in Paris, New York and Leeds. Masauso I take your advise I wont say anything. Keaema mo! I myt be called further names which are more of a reflection of the name-callers. Its called projection.

  • lehlohonolo

    You tell the truth Mathuthu. The worst thing that happens in south africa is the mistreatment of blacks by blacks in institutions. This is more of a global thing. Blacks suffer from inferiority complex it is not about hate. They have been oppressed a lot. south africa has just come from oppression. there is a culture of impressing the boss, mlungu and it gives birth to corruption and fraud. The blacks as the victim do not stand their ground because they are scared too. Inferiority and fear. I once was treated like that in Botswana and was detained for 6hours. I did not budge, i had to report the case which ruffled a lot of feathers and won me respect. I was not doing it for myself but for my fellow brothers and sisters who were to pass through the border post in the future. I apologise to my brother who had to wait for me the whole day when we were going to my grandmother’s funeral. There are a lot of blacks who did not vote for Obama only because he is black. There are many incidents of black on black. rsources is another thing its a topic for another day. Africa has a long way to go especially with people that call white black and refuse to see what is laid bare in front of them. Thanks for a good article Mathuthu, it makes us look deep into ourselves as a people. introspectio. please post regularly!

  • lehlohonolo

    You tell the truth Mathuthu. The worst thing that happens in south africa is the mistreatment of blacks by blacks in institutions. This is more of a global thing. Blacks suffer from inferiority complex it is not about hate. They have been oppressed a lot. south africa has just come from oppression. there is a culture of impressing the boss, mlungu and it gives birth to corruption and fraud. The blacks as the victim do not stand their ground because they are scared too. Inferiority and fear. I once was treated like that in Botswana and was detained for 6hours. I did not budge, i had to report the case which ruffled a lot of feathers and won me respect. I was not doing it for myself but for my fellow brothers and sisters who were to pass through the border post in the future. I apologise to my brother who had to wait for me the whole day when we were going to my grandmother’s funeral. There are a lot of blacks who did not vote for Obama only because he is black. There are many incidents of black on black. rsources is another thing its a topic for another day. Africa has a long way to go especially with people that call white black and refuse to see what is laid bare in front of them. Thanks for a good article Mathuthu, it makes us look deep into ourselves as a people. introspectio. please post regularly!

  • SDA

    lenhohohho..finally you are talking sense.We dont hate Sa, maybe we are a bit jealous. The thing is SA people think we wish them bad. Not at all.We helped you get liberated.We are just warning you. Dont think you are free yet.You aint. Most black people in most countries are suffering.Because our economies are run by foreigners. We are not the foreigners. SA shld go to Zim and vise versa with no visas.We are one people. Sa, Zim, Moza, Namib, Zambia. One love!!! In Zim we learned the hard way. But it seems you will have to as well. Fight for the chains are still there. Laugh at Zim.sure. But I bet you one thing…………10 years from now, we will be on top!

  • SDA

    lenhohohho..finally you are talking sense.We dont hate Sa, maybe we are a bit jealous. The thing is SA people think we wish them bad. Not at all.We helped you get liberated.We are just warning you. Dont think you are free yet.You aint. Most black people in most countries are suffering.Because our economies are run by foreigners. We are not the foreigners. SA shld go to Zim and vise versa with no visas.We are one people. Sa, Zim, Moza, Namib, Zambia. One love!!! In Zim we learned the hard way. But it seems you will have to as well. Fight for the chains are still there. Laugh at Zim.sure. But I bet you one thing…………10 years from now, we will be on top!

  • steve

    Its funny enough u people talk about the high crime rate in south africa and most of u fuckers think yo’ll are educated. Yo’ll are forgeting the fact that there’s over 1 million hungry zimbos living all over south africa, who would do anything to earn some get some money. but u fools think its just us south african causing crime.he! Why would i live my family and go robe someone out in the street unless i’m very hungry and have no place to stay?

    Some of u’s are telling us to go clean up our imkhukhu yethu, when yet the mejority of people living in them are zimbos. most south african people that lived in them 7 years ago are now living in RDP houses. so plse get yo facts right and stop hating!

    No one likes whats happening in zim and if u people can’t stand up for yo self, who’s gonna do it.

    yo’ll don’t know any thing about south africa for one. yo’ll are talking now cause its what it is now, where were u’s when our fathers died for freedom, where the fuck were u’s. yo’ll are forgeting where we are coming from. mina personaly i don’t hate zim people, my girl friend from zim and all my best mate are also from there but they are not hating but praaying that things get better.

    The name of this site is NEWZIMBABWE.COM not a site for u to take out yo anger on us. don’t worry about our mess. we’ve fixed it before, whats gonna stop us now…and plse don’t talk about south africa and education! Remember its what it is now because of our educated leaders and so are we! FACT MZANSI ROCKS XXXXX

  • steve

    Its funny enough u people talk about the high crime rate in south africa and most of u fuckers think yo’ll are educated. Yo’ll are forgeting the fact that there’s over 1 million hungry zimbos living all over south africa, who would do anything to earn some get some money. but u fools think its just us south african causing crime.he! Why would i live my family and go robe someone out in the street unless i’m very hungry and have no place to stay?

    Some of u’s are telling us to go clean up our imkhukhu yethu, when yet the mejority of people living in them are zimbos. most south african people that lived in them 7 years ago are now living in RDP houses. so plse get yo facts right and stop hating!

    No one likes whats happening in zim and if u people can’t stand up for yo self, who’s gonna do it.

    yo’ll don’t know any thing about south africa for one. yo’ll are talking now cause its what it is now, where were u’s when our fathers died for freedom, where the fuck were u’s. yo’ll are forgeting where we are coming from. mina personaly i don’t hate zim people, my girl friend from zim and all my best mate are also from there but they are not hating but praaying that things get better.

    The name of this site is NEWZIMBABWE.COM not a site for u to take out yo anger on us. don’t worry about our mess. we’ve fixed it before, whats gonna stop us now…and plse don’t talk about south africa and education! Remember its what it is now because of our educated leaders and so are we! FACT MZANSI ROCKS XXXXX

  • matida

    South Africans have still to encounter real problems. Things appear to be rosy to a certain extent, yet the tools for generation of wealth, are still not within their reach. The biggest players on their bourse, are prodiminantly foreign owned, or still in the hands of non indigenous South Africans. This is now a case of biting the hand, that wants fed you. Zimbabwe stood by South Africans during the Dark Days, and all my brethren and sisters ask for, is to be treated without suspicion. Yes things are tight for us Zimbos at the moment, but whatever happened to being your brothers keeper? The History our nations share is immense: and because of this you guys to the South should be the most understanding, but you are not. History has shown itself to be a great master at repeating itself, and if you guys aren’t careful, when the Great Ruins of Dzimbahwe arise once again, you shall look to the North, and by then:we shall have forgiven, but I wonder if we would have forgotten Everything that we are experiencing as a nation, you shall encounter too. Nothing remains constant in this world we live, so as the saying goes, all the people you meet on your way up, are the same ones you encounter on your way down. Time is the Master!

  • matida

    South Africans have still to encounter real problems. Things appear to be rosy to a certain extent, yet the tools for generation of wealth, are still not within their reach. The biggest players on their bourse, are prodiminantly foreign owned, or still in the hands of non indigenous South Africans. This is now a case of biting the hand, that wants fed you. Zimbabwe stood by South Africans during the Dark Days, and all my brethren and sisters ask for, is to be treated without suspicion. Yes things are tight for us Zimbos at the moment, but whatever happened to being your brothers keeper? The History our nations share is immense: and because of this you guys to the South should be the most understanding, but you are not. History has shown itself to be a great master at repeating itself, and if you guys aren’t careful, when the Great Ruins of Dzimbahwe arise once again, you shall look to the North, and by then:we shall have forgiven, but I wonder if we would have forgotten Everything that we are experiencing as a nation, you shall encounter too. Nothing remains constant in this world we live, so as the saying goes, all the people you meet on your way up, are the same ones you encounter on your way down. Time is the Master!

  • E J JOOMALO: ZIMBO’S MORE EDUC

    For all the great wealth in SA, I am yet to meet a black South African with a level of intellect that matches the average black Zimbabwean like for like. Honestly, most of the time I find myself having to lower my tone, and intellectual pitch just to accommodate and avoid intimidating some of my SA colleagues. When I meet a like for like Zimbo on the other hand, I am most certain to have to match or raise my normal level, and that is a fact. SA’s humble yourselves, you have so much to learn so be patient.

  • E J JOOMALO: ZIMBO’S MORE EDUCATED AND SMARTER

    For all the great wealth in SA, I am yet to meet a black South African with a level of intellect that matches the average black Zimbabwean like for like. Honestly, most of the time I find myself having to lower my tone, and intellectual pitch just to accommodate and avoid intimidating some of my SA colleagues. When I meet a like for like Zimbo on the other hand, I am most certain to have to match or raise my normal level, and that is a fact. SA’s humble yourselves, you have so much to learn so be patient.

  • Nzekulu

    Oh by the way Mathuthu, you can also get buses to Bulawayo from Park Station.
    Good Article though.