Mthulisi Mathuthu

Mthulisi Mathuthu is a Zimbabwean journalist. He is hooked on Russian literature and also enjoys the works of John Maxwell Coetzee, Eduardo Galeano and Salman Rushdie. He is an A-Z on Afro-jazz and has recently taken a keen interest in issues of climate change and international development. In Jose Mourinho, he sees his ideal self: "a character who doesn't care about anybody but gets things going for himself". E-mail: thuthuma@yahoo.com

South Africa: still a land of many possibilities

THERE is something paradoxical about South Africa which will perhaps never go, at least not in our lifetime: no matter what publicity the country gets, life goes on and they survive, dance, drink, laugh, play and still attract millions of visitors, both the wanted and unwelcome, from all over the world.
 
During the dying days of Apartheid, the chilling scenes of street violence and police brutality were not enough to deter thousands of people from Southern and Central Africa from flocking south of the Limpopo.
 
In 1992, two hours after national television had showed images of the Boipatong carnage, I accompanied a high school friend Thabani Zondo to catch a mini bus to Johannesburg. I have not seen nor heard from him since.
 
In Zimbabwe, not only is South Africa the Holy Grail, but virtually every household has two or three members who either live or have died there.
 
Not even the tales of the scourge of HIV/AIDS nor the 2008 xenophobic attacks which swept through the country were enough to stop the southwards human traffic. Come what may, many are still ready to brave the crocodiles and cross the Limpopo River to sneak under razor wire (one of South Africa’s inventions) just to get to Jozi, as Johannesburg is known.
 
Such is the magnetic nature of South Africa which might as well serve as a confidence booster that they will successfully host the 2010 World Cup, a possibility which many are still labouring to scupper. After all didn’t they win independence at a time when everybody predicted bloodbath? Didn’t they initially lose the 2006 World Cup bid only to win some years later?
 
Returning to Cape Town after my last visit seven years ago, I got a glimpse of what makes the Rainbow Nation attractive and what might possibly explain why they will succeed yet again amid doubts.
 
I landed at the Cape Town International Airport on an SA flight from London exhausted, hoping for a quick dash through the immigration formalities so I could take a nap at my hotel. Moreover, I longed for the African sunshine being from frozen England.
 
First, my luggage took too long to come through and just as I was dragging it out, some customs official beckoned me aside to check my passport and my bag. Where was I going? What was inside my bag, whose was this and that inside the bag? It was like an Apartheid officer questioning a native.
 
In no time, he led me to a small room whereupon he emptied my bag, turned it upside down and felt with his hands if nothing was hidden somewhere in the invisible pockets. Unsatisfied, he emptied the bag completely and ran it through a scanner which identified a small object stashed into the backside sliding pocket. Excitedly, and almost drooling, he ordered me to remove it and I quickly obliged to whip out my small hard covered notebook which I had purchased at Heathrow.
 
"That’s it mate, welcome to South Africa," he said, leaving me to pack my bag.
 
I felt degraded, and by the time I got out, my friend was already worried and when he asked about the delay, I simply brushed it aside and said I was waiting for the luggage.
 
Next was for me to buy the sim-card for my phone. Again, they needed my passport and images not just to register my number but to place against every pound note I changed! Not only had the Cape Town Airport changed since my last visit but the way of conducting business had undergone something of a revolution. Previously, one could just purchase the mobile phone starter pack from any grocer and change it anytime, and one could change their money without problems as long it wasn’t travellers’ cheques.
 
Finally we were in the sunshine. The sun stood alone in the clear blue sky pouring out its heat as viciously as a jilted lover on a revenge mission.
 
As we drove to the hotel, I was not just feeling the strain of the heat and changes in the South African way of doing things, but the prejudice. Why should it be painful to change just £50? Why was I searched like a suicide bomber? I asked myself. Moreover I had laboured to obtained the visa in London, where you need to submit copious documents which make the Bible look like a Pacesetter novel.
 
On switching on the TV at my hotel, I got the answer: Security! A whole range of football people from across Europe had lined up to raise issues of security and cast doubt on the safety of footballers during the June show in South Africa following the shooting incident involving the Togolese team at Africa Cup of Nations in Angola.
 
If the shooting in Angola, many miles away from South Africa, could raise so much hullaballoo and cast doubt on South Africa’s capacity to host an incident-free event, one can only understand why they must not leave a stone unturned. Imagine what would happen to South Africa’s image and that of the rest of the region if a shooting were to take place, or a bomb were to go off killing footballers and the dignitaries?
 
This is a country which knows what tragedy, failure and pain mean and hence every effort not to sleep-walk into yet another conundrum.
 
South Africa is also a country which can undergo some collective soul searching, and perhaps nothing epitomises this than the reform from the dark era to democracy and the fight they put to win 2010 after the 2006 disappointment. I will never forget listening to Lawrence Dube playing Ray Phiri and Stimela’s ‘Tell me where did we go wrong’ after South Africa lost the 2006 bid to Germany.
 
And yet as South Africa strives to avert carnage, the country seems to have overlooked its one major strength — the timeless attractiveness of the Rainbow Nation which not even the mighty of Apartheid and many other un-pleasantries, some of which are still present to day, could deform.
 
There is just too much to parade, and yet there are some missing billboards and words. When the likes of Hull City Manager Phil Brown and the Bayern Munich President Uli Hoeness spew their bigoted bile, the South Africans simply need to whip out their 4,344,136 vuvuzelas and drown the senseless World Cup concerns.
 
When their security measures are questioned, they don’t just need to search visiting journalists but they also need to parade their credentials in peace. This is a country with four Nobel Peace Prize winners — three of them still alive.
 
Why worry about bad press when they can use their own wordsmiths of global stature? They have two Nobel Prize winners of literature and both of them are still alive — John Maxwell Coetzee and Nadine Gordimer.
 
Why not a billboard on all these luminaries at the Oliver Tambo International or in Cape Town? It could, perhaps, read something like: ‘South Africa 2010 — we have Nobels in Peace’.
 
Just to step into South Africa and walk around is to meet the world. In Cape Town not only the Atlantic and the Indian Oceans meet but people flow in as a river into the sea. There are stunning beaches where you can relax and splash with people from all over the world before you set out for dinner, provided you survive a shark attack (during the week I was there, a Zimbabwean man was eaten by a shark and nothing but his goggles were recovered).
 
Cape Town’s Water Front stands unmatched. Here, food, fashion, craft, entertainment, education and drink collide. Nothing beats the view of the Table Mountain while sitting engrossed in a discussion and watching the tame sea lions stagger out of the water to sunbath. It’s not only the affluent who eat here.
 
My friend told me of a must-see barbeque spot somewhere right in the heart of the Gugulethu Township. I know about this township for giving us Afro-pop singer Ringo Madlingozi, and the so-called Gugulethu Seven shooting as well as the "reconciliation tree" which I saw at one primary school when I last visited in 2003.
 
On our way, we cut through some affluent suburbs with vast irrigated loans like we were in Sydney, except here they lay side-by-side with collapsing shacks. South Africa is a land of contradictions: infinite wealth and immeasurable poverty lie side-by-side, like finding a beauty queen intimate with an elderly leper.
 
If you thought the Water Front was for the white people, as some young Capetonians disturbingly kept saying at my hotel, then you must visit Mzoli’s Meat, as the barbeque spot in Gugulethu is called. Here tourists from as far as Europe park their cars along the township roads just to eat. During the weekends, I am told, the place teems with trendy people in a way that would rival Melville in Johannesburg.
 
There are many such places in South Africa where people eat boerewors (another SA invention), pap and meat. One such place is in Ivory Park, Johannesburg, where I ended my trip. After the barbeque in Thembisa, the Sunday I left, we had a mini afternoon bash in Midrand, where I was staying, dancing to latest kwaito and house music. It was painful to leave right in the middle of a dance party full of professionals — accountants, journalists, engineers and business people. I couldn’t bring myself to accept that I had to leave shisanyama, as barbeque is called, here into the freezing England.
 
At the airport, I bought my last Castle Lager and thought silently. This is the land of many possibilities. If there is the Water Front, there is Mzoli’s, if there is Khayelitsha Township, there is Constantia and Sandton, if there is Eugene Terreblanche, there is Nelson Mandela, if there are 48 million people there are 11 languages, if there is a razorwire there is the Simunye and Ubuntu concepts, if there is Robben Island there is the Bill of Rights. The possibilities are limitless.
 
I had not yet finished my beer when I noticed that our flight was going to be delayed by three hours. After those three hours came the news of a cancellation, meaning we had to put up at some hotel. We were told the South African Airways plane had a blocked loo!
 
Queuing for the bus outside after reclaiming our luggage, I overheard an elderly lady saying: ‘Come the World Cup, I think there will be chaos.’ Disappointed as I was with the cancellation of the flight, and for having to wait out there like I was at Park Station waiting for buses to Harare, I wished I had a vuvuzela. ‘Awulethi ivuvuzela yami,’ I said in my mind. Yet another billboard, I thought to myself, and smiled as I opened my pack of nuts to crunch away.
  • Nzekulu

    Oh by the way Mathuthu, you can also get buses to Bulawayo from Park Station.
    Good Article though.

  • nhamo

    Guys just stop hallucinating. SA will never been like Zim. SA at its worst has always been way better than Zim at its best. Education my ass. what has education done for Zimbabwe. If education makes you think and be like Zim I will rather stay far far far away from school.

  • nhamo

    Guys just stop hallucinating. SA will never been like Zim. SA at its worst has always been way better than Zim at its best. Education my ass. what has education done for Zimbabwe. If education makes you think and be like Zim I will rather stay far far far away from school.

  • Ivan

    what a vain discussion. Parallels cannot be drawn between the two countries. Its an insult to SA. Simple comparison; Zim failed to host the nations cup while university of Capetown and of the witwaterand can easily host AFCON, with their state of the art stadiums.

  • Ivan

    what a vain discussion. Parallels cannot be drawn between the two countries. Its an insult to SA. Simple comparison; Zim failed to host the nations cup while university of Capetown and of the witwaterand can easily host AFCON, with their state of the art stadiums.

  • Shami

    However emotiona people get the truth and we all know it, Zimbabweans are more educationally advanced than South Africans whether we get our education bcoz we r asylum seekers or not (SA did the same during apatheid). As for crime say wot u want about Zim but there is no country in the WORLD outside of a warzone more dangerous than SA (except Brazil).Empty vessels make the most noise, the educated affluent South African has no problems with feloow African, its those that are lacking in even Primary school education that blame their own self worthlessness on us Zimbas. Given, you are better dancers than us period!!!!!You have had a lot of time to practise while we were busy getting an education and i supoose you do have to be good at something!!!!!

  • Shami

    However emotiona people get the truth and we all know it, Zimbabweans are more educationally advanced than South Africans whether we get our education bcoz we r asylum seekers or not (SA did the same during apatheid). As for crime say wot u want about Zim but there is no country in the WORLD outside of a warzone more dangerous than SA (except Brazil).Empty vessels make the most noise, the educated affluent South African has no problems with feloow African, its those that are lacking in even Primary school education that blame their own self worthlessness on us Zimbas. Given, you are better dancers than us period!!!!!You have had a lot of time to practise while we were busy getting an education and i supoose you do have to be good at something!!!!!

  • Motho

    Great Article!
    It’s the white man who seperated us and put borders n blah blah…the WORLD is 1.
    Africa is rich, richly blessed!
    LOL!…at sum stupid responses!…fightin each otha ain’t gon’ help!
    Am a SAfrican & my x partner of 7yrz iz from Zim…we’re now based in the UK.
    All I can say is Zimas you should take a stand in your own country for YOUR COUNTRY (Literally)just as us South Africans did..n the world wil folo…..no magic wand will fix what’s goin on, now or in 10 yrz in Zim. People make up a country, and if 80% of the population emmigrates to whereva …..how and when will the issues eva b solved?

    BTW-Afrikaaners r nd hav always been a minority. They cudnt hav built South Africa…aint possible. Us blacks were/r the backbone to Mzansi-they NEEDED US to accomplish wateva their plans were…(unfo)
    WE Blacks SA’s knew that n they knew tht we knew.
    with no black workers what wud ibhunu do?
    LOGIC ppl!…u have to be brave nd fight
    Same as in Zim.
    Stop being náive.
    Bloodshed is a part of it…u havta be soldiers for your country. Especially a relatively average/small country tht zum iz.

  • Motho

    Great Article!
    It’s the white man who seperated us and put borders n blah blah…the WORLD is 1.
    Africa is rich, richly blessed!
    LOL!…at sum stupid responses!…fightin each otha ain’t gon’ help!
    Am a SAfrican & my x partner of 7yrz iz from Zim…we’re now based in the UK.
    All I can say is Zimas you should take a stand in your own country for YOUR COUNTRY (Literally)just as us South Africans did..n the world wil folo…..no magic wand will fix what’s goin on, now or in 10 yrz in Zim. People make up a country, and if 80% of the population emmigrates to whereva …..how and when will the issues eva b solved?

    BTW-Afrikaaners r nd hav always been a minority. They cudnt hav built South Africa…aint possible. Us blacks were/r the backbone to Mzansi-they NEEDED US to accomplish wateva their plans were…(unfo)
    WE Blacks SA’s knew that n they knew tht we knew.
    with no black workers what wud ibhunu do?
    LOGIC ppl!…u have to be brave nd fight
    Same as in Zim.
    Stop being náive.
    Bloodshed is a part of it…u havta be soldiers for your country. Especially a relatively average/small country tht zum iz.

  • SOWETAN

    fair article once agen Mathuthu.Wateva you went thru at the airport,you should take it as brighter note,SA SECURITY HAS GONE TIGHTER AS WE RUN TO WORLD CUP.Im sure,and you didnt mention that you were searched like dat cos you were Zim.We do get searched like this here in UK, Y r ppl not complainning?? SA security has a ryt to search any1 anytym they want,if they see the need.
    Thanx MGUBANE for copying n pasting my comment i wrote earlier on WORLD CUP article,lol

    Moving on,once agen,these comments by fellow Zims r now starting to evoke & echo a comment i heard 5 yrs ago form a fellow London based Zim socialite/’celebrity’, on how ‘stupid black SAs are..’ So vele is this how WE black SAs r perceived by general fellow Zims or its just few rotten apples and some sour grapes?? And it now seem to be the usual seek of empathy,using ”…we helped SA during dark years..” when our resources,culture & wealth have to be exploited for selfishnes,greed & individual enrichment.For crying out loud WE HAVE OVER 3MILLION ILLEGAL ZIMS in a still developing SA. It is a fact that,Zim was rated top with their education system 20yrs and more years ago,thanx to the british.But that doesnt give you fellow Zims to diss us black SAs, as you know quite well we were underserved with education by apartheid regime.This is pathetic and very disturbing.Thank goodnes my beautiful SA is getting all systems to where it supposed to be,and we r still accomodating over millions of Zims and more other africans,legal and illegal. And with my stay here in UK, god knows how many fellow Zims have faked SA passports,I kno a lot, but i & a lot other genuine SAs never raised it.
    I hope i realy did read such degrading comments sober n well and just wondering if some SAs could read these comments coming for ‘educated n Intelligent” Zims,hw will they receive them.
    Its only Zims dat seem to be bothered & more negetive about SA and their affairs, Y not also Batswana,Basotho,Swatis,Zambians and Tanzanias who also gave asyllum during our dark years.
    I’M VERY VERY DISSAPPOINTED,IF THIS IS THE GENERAL PERCEPTION fellow zims hav on us black SAs. I beleave in karma though.But i stil pray along fellow Zims that the Zim politics & economy get sorted to where it belongs to bring back stability in the SADEC region.
    NKOSI SIKELELA I SOUTH AFRICA…!!

  • SOWETAN

    fair article once agen Mathuthu.Wateva you went thru at the airport,you should take it as brighter note,SA SECURITY HAS GONE TIGHTER AS WE RUN TO WORLD CUP.Im sure,and you didnt mention that you were searched like dat cos you were Zim.We do get searched like this here in UK, Y r ppl not complainning?? SA security has a ryt to search any1 anytym they want,if they see the need.
    Thanx MGUBANE for copying n pasting my comment i wrote earlier on WORLD CUP article,lol

    Moving on,once agen,these comments by fellow Zims r now starting to evoke & echo a comment i heard 5 yrs ago form a fellow London based Zim socialite/’celebrity’, on how ‘stupid black SAs are..’ So vele is this how WE black SAs r perceived by general fellow Zims or its just few rotten apples and some sour grapes?? And it now seem to be the usual seek of empathy,using ”…we helped SA during dark years..” when our resources,culture & wealth have to be exploited for selfishnes,greed & individual enrichment.For crying out loud WE HAVE OVER 3MILLION ILLEGAL ZIMS in a still developing SA. It is a fact that,Zim was rated top with their education system 20yrs and more years ago,thanx to the british.But that doesnt give you fellow Zims to diss us black SAs, as you know quite well we were underserved with education by apartheid regime.This is pathetic and very disturbing.Thank goodnes my beautiful SA is getting all systems to where it supposed to be,and we r still accomodating over millions of Zims and more other africans,legal and illegal. And with my stay here in UK, god knows how many fellow Zims have faked SA passports,I kno a lot, but i & a lot other genuine SAs never raised it.
    I hope i realy did read such degrading comments sober n well and just wondering if some SAs could read these comments coming for ‘educated n Intelligent” Zims,hw will they receive them.
    Its only Zims dat seem to be bothered & more negetive about SA and their affairs, Y not also Batswana,Basotho,Swatis,Zambians and Tanzanias who also gave asyllum during our dark years.
    I’M VERY VERY DISSAPPOINTED,IF THIS IS THE GENERAL PERCEPTION fellow zims hav on us black SAs. I beleave in karma though.But i stil pray along fellow Zims that the Zim politics & economy get sorted to where it belongs to bring back stability in the SADEC region.
    NKOSI SIKELELA I SOUTH AFRICA…!!

  • SDA

    Its SA people who spit on us first. Makwererkwere and other deragotory names. People in SA have a perception their country is doing well. Its NOT. If ur country is so nice how come so many of you are pretending to be Zimbabweans to get Asylum? How come u are living here in the first place. Agree all is not good in mzansi and lets continue the fight together. Not looking down on each other!!

  • SDA

    Its SA people who spit on us first. Makwererkwere and other deragotory names. People in SA have a perception their country is doing well. Its NOT. If ur country is so nice how come so many of you are pretending to be Zimbabweans to get Asylum? How come u are living here in the first place. Agree all is not good in mzansi and lets continue the fight together. Not looking down on each other!!

  • http://p.booth182@btinternet.com Thulani

    The writer, maybe biased about SA.Yes it has opportunities,but do not underestimate Zimbabwe.Mr Mandela is A Great Leader, he paved the way,for true democracy,in SA.He created this Love, for South Africans to let go of intense dislike,of apartheid ,in 1992.Lets not forget Mr De clerk,was party of that Unity too,and it worked.SA is still struggling to uplift the poor,who still have no good housing and jobs.The situation in Zimbabwe was created by a minority of megalomaniacs.

  • Mawrongwrong

    SDA u r talkin crap.U must get yo fact correct.Ppl of SA never hv a perception that we r doing well, WE ARE STILL A DEVELOPING COUNTRY. Rome was not built in a day. As much as most of negetive comments frm,i presume most Zim ppl here, say we r still poor, unemployed,crime,blah blah.How many illegal Zim ppl are contributing to that in SA. Read SA newspapers wil learn most of cash in transit heists were by Zims, most of buglaries happening, the criminals were traced to be Zims by origin. U guys should be the last to tell us about crime and poverty in SA, cos these are the repurcutions of accomodating over 3million zims in SA.And we r not forcefully removing them as we speak,like wat other neighbouring countries did.
    Our own President dat keep on smearing is here in UK to negotiate on your behalf for sunctions to be eased, while the very same leaders of yo country r still at loggerheads with sanctions.U guys r confusing us. We want to help while you guys stil have your own politics that hinder help frm our country. U talk to a shona & a ndebele, they will tell u 2 opposing stories, which eventualy confuse an outsider. Sort your issues amongst yoselves 1st,then help will cum.
    As a South African with so many Zim friends, i still dont kno which leader to trust cos you give confusing information wich only locals(Zims) can understand.

    When u talk about the same old excuse = ‘Zim helped SA into Liberation..’ that excuse is tired now.Its not like Zimbabwe sent troops to fight regime in SA, Its not even over a million of SAs that seeked assyllum in Zim.A lot went to Zambia,Botswana and Tanzania(where my parents seeked assylum). Zim had a lesser number of SAs that went for Assyllum as yo state was still under british control to some extent.It was dangerous for cadres to go there, So stop inflating issues now.
    Most of yu are outside Zim but nothing forceful is done to make an attempt 2 outs the regime. Wat did Assylum SAs did in foreign countried??? WE MOBILISED , millitary wings were formed by different orgs, but you guys here in UK r buzy lounging, no rallies, no marches,worst part NOT EVEN CHARITY EVENTS to fund raise for your ppl we just saw on BBC$, How EMBARRASING!!! The are too many Zim promoters most who are always bothered & manipulate SA events instead of being of being positive and do something about ZIM. Give me just 1 event or parties that have been organised by 1 or 2 of many Zimbabwean promooter the last 10yrs here in UK???

    Zimbabwean ppl you are very wise enough to do something positive to emancipate your country,than using SA as scapegoat. Wake up Zimbabwean, yo country and your ppl needs you. Do something about it NOW,not anybody else but YOU!!!
    Amen!
    PLEASE STOP USING MZANSI AS A SCAPEGOAT HERE.

  • Mawrongwrong

    SDA u r talkin crap.U must get yo fact correct.Ppl of SA never hv a perception that we r doing well, WE ARE STILL A DEVELOPING COUNTRY. Rome was not built in a day. As much as most of negetive comments frm,i presume most Zim ppl here, say we r still poor, unemployed,crime,blah blah.How many illegal Zim ppl are contributing to that in SA. Read SA newspapers wil learn most of cash in transit heists were by Zims, most of buglaries happening, the criminals were traced to be Zims by origin. U guys should be the last to tell us about crime and poverty in SA, cos these are the repurcutions of accomodating over 3million zims in SA.And we r not forcefully removing them as we speak,like wat other neighbouring countries did.
    Our own President dat keep on smearing is here in UK to negotiate on your behalf for sunctions to be eased, while the very same leaders of yo country r still at loggerheads with sanctions.U guys r confusing us. We want to help while you guys stil have your own politics that hinder help frm our country. U talk to a shona & a ndebele, they will tell u 2 opposing stories, which eventualy confuse an outsider. Sort your issues amongst yoselves 1st,then help will cum.
    As a South African with so many Zim friends, i still dont kno which leader to trust cos you give confusing information wich only locals(Zims) can understand.

    When u talk about the same old excuse = ‘Zim helped SA into Liberation..’ that excuse is tired now.Its not like Zimbabwe sent troops to fight regime in SA, Its not even over a million of SAs that seeked assyllum in Zim.A lot went to Zambia,Botswana and Tanzania(where my parents seeked assylum). Zim had a lesser number of SAs that went for Assyllum as yo state was still under british control to some extent.It was dangerous for cadres to go there, So stop inflating issues now.
    Most of yu are outside Zim but nothing forceful is done to make an attempt 2 outs the regime. Wat did Assylum SAs did in foreign countried??? WE MOBILISED , millitary wings were formed by different orgs, but you guys here in UK r buzy lounging, no rallies, no marches,worst part NOT EVEN CHARITY EVENTS to fund raise for your ppl we just saw on BBC$, How EMBARRASING!!! The are too many Zim promoters most who are always bothered & manipulate SA events instead of being of being positive and do something about ZIM. Give me just 1 event or parties that have been organised by 1 or 2 of many Zimbabwean promooter the last 10yrs here in UK???

    Zimbabwean ppl you are very wise enough to do something positive to emancipate your country,than using SA as scapegoat. Wake up Zimbabwean, yo country and your ppl needs you. Do something about it NOW,not anybody else but YOU!!!
    Amen!
    PLEASE STOP USING MZANSI AS A SCAPEGOAT HERE.

  • SDA

    If you are also poor. Why laugh at us then???the same poor people are there in Sa and in Zim. So dont laugh. That woman from SA dont know balanced journalism. She knew what she was doing. Read between the lines!! You are right, we are really divided at the moment. But I think we are in the same boat. Hence we are all living in exile. Tell me.what have you done for your people. Me nothing. I am at University and learning. When I go back……my education will be their key. I dont believe in Aid but education. That will set us free.

  • SDA

    If you are also poor. Why laugh at us then???the same poor people are there in Sa and in Zim. So dont laugh. That woman from SA dont know balanced journalism. She knew what she was doing. Read between the lines!! You are right, we are really divided at the moment. But I think we are in the same boat. Hence we are all living in exile. Tell me.what have you done for your people. Me nothing. I am at University and learning. When I go back……my education will be their key. I dont believe in Aid but education. That will set us free.

  • SDA

    If Zims are committing crimes in your country …..kick them out. Stop using us as a scape goat for ur own criminals. Even b4 our problems there was a lot of crime in SA. million Zims in SA. Now thats a lie!!!!There were 12 million people in Zim. About million of working age and able to travel. Are you saying a 1/4 of the country left to go to SA.rubbish! million left but most to the west. SA is a scary place and I would neva go there! Stop using Zim as a scape goat for ur own criminals. We are clever, but not that clever. Going next door and robbing everyone.lies!!

  • SDA

    If Zims are committing crimes in your country …..kick them out. Stop using us as a scape goat for ur own criminals. Even b4 our problems there was a lot of crime in SA. million Zims in SA. Now thats a lie!!!!There were 12 million people in Zim. About million of working age and able to travel. Are you saying a 1/4 of the country left to go to SA.rubbish! million left but most to the west. SA is a scary place and I would neva go there! Stop using Zim as a scape goat for ur own criminals. We are clever, but not that clever. Going next door and robbing everyone.lies!!

  • SDA

    3 million.please

  • SDA

    3 million.please

  • “i take no shit from any1″

    do u know why southafrica got da world cup not that u ve got the facilities sepp blatter gets most of hits votes from africa hence his corrupt and so are his fellows in africa.so bayadla wena owakho umntwana edrayiva istina…lol!!!!!

  • “i take no shit from any1″

    do u know why southafrica got da world cup not that u ve got the facilities sepp blatter gets most of hits votes from africa hence his corrupt and so are his fellows in africa.so bayadla wena owakho umntwana edrayiva istina…lol!!!!!

  • mtengisi

    kanti editor why unga publishi ezami incwadi.lomuntu okuthiwa ngu lehlohonolo uyawumana,GOD HAVE MERCY ON THIS POOR SOUL..i dont blame u but ur ignorance.give us facts and figures not hear say.unemploment rate etc.if u r saying saying amaillegals are causing high unemployment,i thot as u say southafrica is advanced at least people are on the data base so how do u account 4 the illegals,have they been registered na to show they are contributing 2 unemployment figures.phela in the uk they use jobcentres!!!

  • mtengisi

    kanti editor why unga publishi ezami incwadi.lomuntu okuthiwa ngu lehlohonolo uyawumana,GOD HAVE MERCY ON THIS POOR SOUL..i dont blame u but ur ignorance.give us facts and figures not hear say.unemploment rate etc.if u r saying saying amaillegals are causing high unemployment,i thot as u say southafrica is advanced at least people are on the data base so how do u account 4 the illegals,have they been registered na to show they are contributing 2 unemployment figures.phela in the uk they use jobcentres!!!

  • masauso

    Migration from Zim does not start in 2000 morons. Since Wenela people have been going down south. 1980s Matebeles fleeing Genocide in millions. Migratio to SA does not begin when a Shonas go there in droves post 2000. You are angry because you used to say SA is for the uneducated Ndebele. I am Chewa and have been always identfied and i idnetify myself with the Ndebele.Dont forget you are what you are because of South Africa. Mugabe saw the value of education at Fort hare and UNISA where his Degrees are from. Mqabuko got his from Wits. The fees that paid for your fathers fees nd clothes all came from eWenela you funny breed!!!!Anythingthat you care to mention even Marechera will tell you about Mphahlele. Your football national team starting eleven plays in SA including Zambia, Namibia, Malawi etc.I wish they could deport all of your breed so you can wake up including your footballers so you can wake up!!!!you still hypnotised by Mugabe!!Wish people like Lehlohonolo keeps on reminding you of what you are!

  • masauso

    Migration from Zim does not start in 2000 morons. Since Wenela people have been going down south. 1980s Matebeles fleeing Genocide in millions. Migratio to SA does not begin when a Shonas go there in droves post 2000. You are angry because you used to say SA is for the uneducated Ndebele. I am Chewa and have been always identfied and i idnetify myself with the Ndebele.Dont forget you are what you are because of South Africa. Mugabe saw the value of education at Fort hare and UNISA where his Degrees are from. Mqabuko got his from Wits. The fees that paid for your fathers fees nd clothes all came from eWenela you funny breed!!!!Anythingthat you care to mention even Marechera will tell you about Mphahlele. Your football national team starting eleven plays in SA including Zambia, Namibia, Malawi etc.I wish they could deport all of your breed so you can wake up including your footballers so you can wake up!!!!you still hypnotised by Mugabe!!Wish people like Lehlohonolo keeps on reminding you of what you are!

  • True Shona

    God……………masauso. You are really bitter. I wish all Shonas in SA come back home. Noone deserves to be treated like this. Chewa.thats Malawi right? Your lot need to leave Zim as well then. There are A LOT of them there. Ma brandaya munonetsa! U followed the railway to our yard. Now you spit on us. Go to SA then and see how they will treat you there. We have never burned anyone but you are tempting me! achimwene.sit down and shut up. This is not your fight.

  • True Shona

    God……………masauso. You are really bitter. I wish all Shonas in SA come back home. Noone deserves to be treated like this. Chewa.thats Malawi right? Your lot need to leave Zim as well then. There are A LOT of them there. Ma brandaya munonetsa! U followed the railway to our yard. Now you spit on us. Go to SA then and see how they will treat you there. We have never burned anyone but you are tempting me! achimwene.sit down and shut up. This is not your fight.

  • Freedom fighter

    Why do people like slating Zim. I think its jealousy. They know we are on the forbidden path to greatness. Laugh while you can. But please stay away when we prosper. Masauso….an economic refugee from Malawi, laughs at the country that gave him refuge. Backstabber!!

  • Freedom fighter

    Why do people like slating Zim. I think its jealousy. They know we are on the forbidden path to greatness. Laugh while you can. But please stay away when we prosper. Masauso….an economic refugee from Malawi, laughs at the country that gave him refuge. Backstabber!!

  • Achimwene

    Masauso. Why dont you go to SA and live there since you like it so much. And take all your people with you as well.Actually, why not go back to Malawi?

  • Achimwene

    Masauso. Why dont you go to SA and live there since you like it so much. And take all your people with you as well.Actually, why not go back to Malawi?

  • SDA

    lol @ Masauso. Did you know Chewa is considered as a dialect of Shona. In layman`s terms. Chewa is not much different from some Shona languages. So u my friend are laughing at urself. Google Chewa and see. How many Shona Bandas and Phiris are there? Read a book before you open your mouth. You dont even know your own history!!

  • SDA

    lol @ Masauso. Did you know Chewa is considered as a dialect of Shona. In layman`s terms. Chewa is not much different from some Shona languages. So u my friend are laughing at urself. Google Chewa and see. How many Shona Bandas and Phiris are there? Read a book before you open your mouth. You dont even know your own history!!

  • Stina

    SA is no better off without Zimboes, Shonas have arrived in SA and they are taking over…..Get in a taxi they are speaking shona even the taxi drivers…..They invited them shonas with Oliver Mtukudzi songs. SA loves tuku…On the other hand SA peeps are not educated that’s no secret, it is easy to obtain a fake matric certificate & drive a GTI…SA is all about status…..SA peeps want the money but they don’t want to work. Us Zimboes siyahlangisa even though uspana eGarden, the kusasa bakubona nama grocer we Shoprite, then the hate begins xenophobia!!!

  • Stina

    SA is no better off without Zimboes, Shonas have arrived in SA and they are taking over…..Get in a taxi they are speaking shona even the taxi drivers…..They invited them shonas with Oliver Mtukudzi songs. SA loves tuku…On the other hand SA peeps are not educated that’s no secret, it is easy to obtain a fake matric certificate & drive a GTI…SA is all about status…..SA peeps want the money but they don’t want to work. Us Zimboes siyahlangisa even though uspana eGarden, the kusasa bakubona nama grocer we Shoprite, then the hate begins xenophobia!!!

  • Stina

    Our grans built SA on foot from Malawi to Jozi the land of milk & honey because omkhulu benu were lazy to work wena Lihlonololo…..It’s no secret SA had gold, pple had to come & work

  • Stina

    Our grans built SA on foot from Malawi to Jozi the land of milk & honey because omkhulu benu were lazy to work wena Lihlonololo…..It’s no secret SA had gold, pple had to come & work

  • http://UK masauso

    SDA you are such a dull person! What can you teach anyone if you dont know that nothing called Shona existed till 1934 in this other white man’s thesis. Chewa has been inexistence as Chewa for over 150years dummy. silly silly. As for SA and Zim just tell anyone from any other country that Zim is better thatn SA. Its just as good as saying Mugabe is lighter in complexion than Mandela. That may bring up silly arguements. but the fact remains. As for you education i think it was for solving British problems and not Zim ones because look at what is happening in Zim with all those degrees. Keep on dreaming. By the way dreams are not censored!!!

  • Mawrongwrong

    Zim ppl just leave SA out of your national prblm,cos u seem to not even appreciate the effort we have done to settle yo national prblm.If you guys claim to be more intelligent than SAs, y then do you seek help from SA instead of using yo ‘super’ brains to topple the regime. Y there’s a lot of you in foreign countries, running away like cockroaches instead of mobilising a stronger force to fight the regime from outside.Thats y u fail to sort your issues out,cos your brains and concentration are diverted,you worry more about SA than keeping focus n worry about your famalies and friends you left in Zim.You cant even fundraise or do charities to fund the destitude and those who have been severely crippled by yo regime.You failed even to promote your own Zim artists, stuck in Zim and crippled by your politics,but instead you have been worrying a lot about SA. Your country needs u.If you think SA fails,inspite of >millions of illegal Zims in SA,then do it yourself,and that shouldnt be a prblm as you guys are ‘very intelligent than SAs’

  • Mawrongwrong

    Zim ppl just leave SA out of your national prblm,cos u seem to not even appreciate the effort we have done to settle yo national prblm.If you guys claim to be more intelligent than SAs, y then do you seek help from SA instead of using yo ‘super’ brains to topple the regime. Y there’s a lot of you in foreign countries, running away like cockroaches instead of mobilising a stronger force to fight the regime from outside.Thats y u fail to sort your issues out,cos your brains and concentration are diverted,you worry more about SA than keeping focus n worry about your famalies and friends you left in Zim.You cant even fundraise or do charities to fund the destitude and those who have been severely crippled by yo regime.You failed even to promote your own Zim artists, stuck in Zim and crippled by your politics,but instead you have been worrying a lot about SA. Your country needs u.If you think SA fails,inspite of >millions of illegal Zims in SA,then do it yourself,and that shouldnt be a prblm as you guys are ‘very intelligent than SAs’

  • SDA

    Masauso.we are one people mate. How many Malawians in Zimbabwe..many. Any xenophobia……..0. Go to SA and live there. Good luck!!

  • SDA

    Masauso.we are one people mate. How many Malawians in Zimbabwe..many. Any xenophobia……..0. Go to SA and live there. Good luck!!

  • http://......... Proud Zimbabwean

    Hey you Lehloho what ever. stop saying our President is a thug, otherwise uzow khomba onotshwala, we havnt spoke about any SA President here,
    Learn to respect us WE ARE THE MOST EDUCATED IN AFRICA otherwise in ther World too, its just that whites are jealous to say this strait.
    GIVE RESPECT TO US ZIMBABWEANS

  • Legafa

    You can say what ever you like about Mzansi. But atleast our leaders are trying by all means to provide for their people. YOU are always TALKING about being educated, but your countries are not progressing. Guys remember “that education to a bunch of fools is waste”

  • Legafa

    You can say what ever you like about Mzansi. But atleast our leaders are trying by all means to provide for their people. YOU are always TALKING about being educated, but your countries are not progressing. Guys remember “that education to a bunch of fools is waste”

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