The best Zimbabwe news site on the world wide web 
NEWS
FORUMS
NEWS ANALYSIS
READERS' FORUM

CARTOON

BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE

HENRY OLONGA: THE GREAT DEBATE

Your shouts on Henry Olonga


OLONGA
Olonga sould just zip his loud mouth

More of your shouts (page 2)

Olonga: 'Why I wore that black armband'


Olonga weds in Australia

13 players quit

Three selectors dropped


Streak is right

Player revolt looms

Streak axed as Zim skipper


Our columnist has stirred an angry debate by suggesting Henry Olonga is an opportunist and political novice not entitled to comment on the political crisis in Zimbabwe.

Writing on New Zimbabwe.com, he said: "Olonga wouldn't know oppression if it stared him in the eye. The British press love him because he is "the ideal black man" - the son of a doctor, plays cricket, sings opera music, and hangs more with the white people than his own folk. What the British media chooses to ignore is the fact that Olonga's form had dipped considerably and he was on the verge of being dropped. To him his exile is just a means to an end. Zimbabwe cricket misses the Flower brothers more than it misses Olonga and thats a fact."

Below are some of your comments, and if you wish to join the debate, send e-mails to ozzie@newzimbabwe.com

Editor - What's the betting "Ozzie" is Ozias Bvute?!
Trudy Stevenson
(e-mail withheld)

Editor - Henry olonga is a Zimbabwean and any true zimbabwean will speak out when they have the chance, leave him alone!
Spear
hcbrakspear@chewvalleyschool.co.uk

Editor - Olonga is a true son of Zimbabwe. He knows what he is saying. People like him are very few in Zimbabwe. He stands for the truth. Those who say he should keep quiet are fools and they do not know much about Zimbabwe.
Martin Wakatama
MarkinWakatama@aol.com


Editor- This is interesting and very typical of us Zimbabweans .We are so
jeolus about anyone of us being successful. The fact that the said columnist decided to remain anonymous says it all. He accuses Olonga for not being able to stand up for the oppressed but the columnist can not even stand up for himself, matey !!!. He is so shit scared to come out and say his name how could we ever think he could stand up for the oppressed.

"You don't need any academic qualification to have a political opinion. What bothers you about white or black friends he hangs around with?"
MEMORY CHIKOMO

Yes Olonga did stand up for the oppressed and its not as if he ran out of Zimbabwe immediately the shit hit the fan.He was still in Zimbabwe well after the incident .That does not make him a coward. To start going on about him being a son of a doctor and playing cricket, ideal black man is pathetic and has got the whole marks of envy. It's such a poor throw back.Its not his fault that his dad is a doctor and he played cricket at that high level.
Lastly to suggest that he should direct all interview to political analyst is just a joke.What do you want him to do/say. If any of us were in that situation we would all do the same.The interviews I have heard Olonga has always expressed that this was his view and at not one point has he said the people of Zimbabwe want this or that. What would be good would be to get this columnist's name and Olonga to get a chance to fight back that would present some interesting reading. We might learn a lot more about this columist.One thing I know I would not want this man if I was in the trenches because INGWARA.
Martin Takawira
Martin.Takawira@leedsth.nhs.uk

Editor - Those who say Henry Olonga should not speak on Zimbabwean issues as he is from Kenya are no different from Robert Mugabe who stripped Judith Todd, Sir Garfield Todd and thousands of Zimbabweans with Malawian parents of their voting rights. Henry is a Zimbabwean and his form is not an issue here. If people are not happy with his performance when explaining issues about Zimbabwe then I would rather he is given help rather than demonised. Every Zimbabwean is aware of gross human rights abuses some of it legislated. Every Zimbabwean knows about the Border Gezi factories that are producing torture experts. Every Zimbabwean knows fully well that the third Chimurenga was driven by pure Greed rather than a desire to help ordinary Zimbabweans. This is common knowledge and I do not see any problem when another Zimbabwean, whether by birth or naturalisation, white, Korekore, Zezuru, Xhosa, Sotho, Ndebele, Numbya says it as it is.
Joseph Dlodlo
josephd@vut.ac.za


Editor - I totally agree that Olonga is an opportunist. He shuns Black people and I believe he regrets being born black. Of course Zimbabwe has had its own problems but a real sports person should not mingle in such things. Henry took things too far and I think Zimbabwe is better off without him. He should comment about Kenya his home country. Why wasn’t he staying there in the first place?
Sharon Tapfuma
stapfuma@economics.uz.ac.zw


Editor -
Newzimbabwe is the best and you know what makes people tick and draws peoples' attention. The Olonga piece is a good one! I agree with your
columnist 100 percent! Is it Victor Olonga who wrote it? It seems like it. This rather dunce honkie-lover KENYAN called Henry Olonga should shut up and stop talking about Zimbabwe. The guy knows nothing about anything. He was lucky to be drafted into the team back then due to affirmative action. And all those journalists in Europe will do anything just to get a 'bad' story on Zim and of course, misinformed KENYANS like Olonga will do anything to stay in the limelight so they just find each other and stories are 'produced'. What expert is Olonga? Whose expert on what subject? But do informed people take Olonga seriously? I seriously doubt that.

He is now an asylum seeker who has to 'sing' to the white's tune for his stay in the white-man's land. I guess that has always been his dream. Someone should write a story detailing all his cricket underachievements and people can deduce for themselves for what the KENYAN stands for. Why doesn't he cry foul over the Sudanese or whoever is in East Africa, after all they are his RELATIVES!
Queen
queen1nzinga@yahoo.com

Editor - Just read some chap placing judgement on Henry...personally I think it's a simple case of sour grapes. I myself also went to Plumtree with Henry, no this is not my claim to fame.

Those that really know him well from back in the day, will no doubtably say he is entitled to make those comments about the political situation back home, because let's face it, he is one of those people that can give you an educated opinion on almost anything. Besides who are the right people to make political comments on Zimbabwe? We are all zimbabweans, that is our motherland who then gets to choose the people qualified enough to make those comments? What has Henry said that is false? come on now a majority of Zimbabweans side with Henry anyway (No poll was conducted), otherwise you would be back home sweating it out with your beloved Mugabe. Furthermore you go on to attack him personally, about him hanging around with white folks, what a shame chap, cant blame him for that, I wouldnt want to hang around black people who had your mentality & let's face it there are alot out there.
Let's remain postive, the goal for most Zimbabweans is to get rid of the present regime and if we have someone spreading the word like Henry, soon enough someone will do something about it.
P.S we all know Victor is a thug
Fels
dbxfeli@lycos.co.uk

Editor - Please leave Henry alone. For god's sake who are you (this columnist) to analyse other people giving their own opinion about issues in their chosen country or any country for that matter.
You don't need any academic qualification to have a political opinion. What bothers you about white or black friends he hangs around with? I dont normally participate in such kind of debates but I am agitated by NZ editor who sees it fit to publish such cheap issues. Pse Mr Editor we dont expect to see such articles in this publication.
Memory Chikomo
MemoryC@POTCH.KYNOCH.co.za


Editor - I have no problems with your way of thinking, I have always thought and said so too, but you come first because youhave it in print. Olonga should shut up.
Samaita1st
Samaita1st@aol.com

Editor - Olonga is just a confused idiot,he must leave all to Zimbabweans whether Zanu PF or MDC supporters it's all up to us, why is he so interested in Zimbabwe issues when he is from Kenya. There are lots of things to be put in place in Kenya and Zimbabwe is better than where he comes from.
from muff ray
Kodu
kodujinrin@hotmail.com

"Marrying this 34 year old at such short notice seems well calculated and timed however, it will certainly get him the Australian Residency he may crave"
FARAI, NEW ZEALAND

Editor - Thank you for bringing this up. Thank you very Anonymous for shining the light in the dark. It is funny that I predicted Olonga's intentions of wearing the black arband before it happened. I argued about his sencerity with friends when he decided to wear the arm band. I knew he was an opportunist seeking for an excuse to leave the country. I was right, the next thing we heard was, Olonga was seeking asylum in the UK. The man got what he wanted. I hate it so much when people so biased views on Zimbabwe for the sake of just pleasing their masters. I hate Olonga as much as I hate the Herald and the British Media. Their reporting is so biased and twisted to suit their own political ends.
Tiger Kush
tigerkush@yahoo.com

Editor - True , Henry was an "Uncle Tom" the black cricket players of today will attest to that. When he was at his peak , he fraternised with the the white players with any supportive regard for fellow young up coming black players , but when his form dipped , he joined Takashinga Club and tried to use the race card when he felt in danger of losing his place in the 1st eleven. It is however unfair of some people to question his Zimbabwean roots when we embraced them with pride as he was the 1st black player to break into the national Cricket team and even today his brother is highly regarded as one of the best rugby players Zimbabwe has ever produced. Marrying this 34 year old at such short notice seems well calculated and timed however, it will certainly get him the Australian Residency he may crave. And hence he does not have to worry about his future. One wonders what happened to his long time Zimbabwean girlfriend, I guese he wasn't looking
RAI 4LIFE
New Zealand
farai.makumbe@nz.teletech.com

Editor - Well done mate! A further analysis of this Olonga fellow really makes the point for Zanu PF. An average cricketer whose main claim to fame is being an uncle Tom. The question to Olonga and his kind is very simple, do they honestly believe Blair and cohorts truely have the best interest of Zimbos at heart. Tantrums over a few cricket matches but complete silence on the 200 odd companies doing business with Zim. Duplicity is thick in the air!
Kuda
Kudakwashe181260@aol.com

Editor - It's you and your tribal website who are running an anti Olonga campaign. You are cray nuts up there. You don't see anything good in anybody not from Matabeleland, so button in up and leave with it!
M. Musonza
MMusonza@aol.com

Editor - Nhai Vakomana, do these people get paid to ridicule Zimbabwe? Or do they risk getting deported if they dont do that? For Olonga, we all know he is a failed all-rounder and is best advised to concentrate his energies on something he just might be able to handle, maybe providing simple commentary on cricket... with a bit of luck, he just might make it there! As for politics and Zimbabwe, Henry please vhara muromo wako! Varungu vambokudzingi munyika mavo ukanyarara! What of Georgina Godwin's interview on Sky? Vakomana , how can one say children cant even have access to an eversharp pen in Zimbabwe?
Lets not be our own worst enemies!!! Ndapedza hangu!
Carpet Wezhira
cwezhira@yahoo.co.uk

Editor - Henry is really one of those little boys who do not know nor care much about the Black people in Zim. I think the best for him is to be ignored and let to satisfy the needs of the few who will believe what he says.
Henry went to Plumtree High, spent years pupping around the white teachers within his school, ask him who his black teachers were, I will be shocked if he remembers, mastered the Mrs Westwood smile which is more of a grin and literaly knows nothing about Zim or its people. at school all the guys would occasionally wander into the village, not Henry, he will be hanging around with the white male teachers trying his best to be one of them. I think I understand his marriage to the lady he most probably met a month ago, the boy is lost.
He has a right to earn money the way he can and I suppose saying a few things should not harm anyone especially seeing they are coming from HENRY! Theats just his mind!
Blub G
Blub890@aol.com

Editor - I am surprised to hear that Henry olonga should zip up his mouth, why? Is it just because he is a mere cricket player? Was he not leaving in Zimbabwe? Does it mean you are not allowed to talk if you do not hold any top position? So this means for a mere citizen like me is not allowed to air grievances or say out what I know to be happening in the country. The people who know best, are the poor people who are not allowed to talk, its a pity. Lets face it here, we are the people whose rights we are denied, we of the lower class for that matter and yet we are denied access to the public media, even to show our views. We are subject to silent suffering all days long. Does it mean beinbg acricket player, you do not know whats happening in your own country? His behaviour was only an indicator of whats was supposed to be investigated. Even in colleges or schools, students demonstrate or abscond lectures because of unrectified grievances, the only solution will be to look into the cause and find a solution. Putting a person to exile is meaningless. Olonga had every right as a Zimbabwean to air his views and grievances because he was a citizen of Zimbabwe.
Ashley
(Potential Human Rights Activist)
ashley_kulimanya@yahoo.co.uk

How about giving us a list of those people you think should be allowed to speak up for us. Then we can diligently refer to it whenever someone speaks up just to see if they have the correct designated right to speak up from you. You are so right. How dare Henry Olonga use his democratic right to speak up. Who the hell do the british press think they are asking someone like Henry Olonga, who had the balls to stand up for his beliefs, to give commentary. Yeah born in Kenya too. You tell em! Oh, and by the way, I hope I make your list but then you might leave me off on the basis that I am not as zenophobic as you and i think that anyone, whoever they are, should be allowed to speak up for and about Zimbabwe, even COSATU or Bishop Tutu.
The bottom line is that your commentary on http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/olonga2.11957.html sounds rather Zanu PFish and quite frankly, damned arrogant, to say the least!
Canaan Banana
(E-mail Withheld)

Editor - I am sorry to be on Olonga's side on this occasion. It is my understanding that if we believe in democracy lets leave everyone make his screams so that we are kept with some checks and balances in our conduct at times.Yes Olonga does not know much realy but as for his ordeal i feel he has something to tell us. Most of these people who oppose other people's opinions in most cases they have never been in for a big high jump in their lives. We didn't see what Olonga saw so we can not castigate his opinions at this occasion. Being judgemental is wrong if you want to have more people reading this paper.

Morallity is of paramount importance and i agree with him on that aspect. If anyone does not agree with this i think people have gone in hell. If we hail any wrong from a wrong-doer they might think we like all their wrongs you see so at this occasion anything which comes from the criticised side is flawed that Zim politics at the moment so don't condone wrongs OK!!! If politics is affecting our cricket then why shouldn't they voice (Olonga), let him say his mind out because his career has been put to jeorpady by some cronies and greedy political thugs you see.
So guys think carefully before you ask for the public to criticise some sensible people who can differentiate between wrong and right.
Disgruntled Reader
Grant-mwanawevhu
grantmuganda2001@yahoo.com

Editor - I am running a very successful business operation here back homeland this operation is nothing other than a banking concern. Zimbabwe has had a fair share of trials and tribulations in the year under review, and as an economy we have suffered probably the worst banking crises ever witnessed, primarily because systemic failures and other complementary contagion effects symptomatic in a hyperinflationary envrinoment.

The democratisation of state machinery, including government expenditures on agrarian transformation challenges, has met muted resistance to those who regard change as an ill-condition of progress.Our society had or has been entrenched by a very few mediocrities bend on dipping the gains of our independence into a morass of materialism.Other economies have experienced self same tests,notably the Asian Tigers, but they today lead the command chain in terms of global output. Global statistics seemingly suggest that the global economy continues to encounter energy crises constraints,the US airways need to maintain the oil price to not more than USD 31.00, if their operations are just to breakeven, but prevailing prices in the market are sitting at USD 51.00 per cubic barrel.

"Olonga seems think that by going to Australia and marrying a white woman aged 34 he has made a self discovery of democracy"
ANONYMOUS, HARARE

This simple demonstration illustrates the benign nature of uncontrollable global economic events events,which are not necessarily peculiar to Zimbabwe.The overheating of an economy does not only happen to African goverments,but also happens in every case of international capital funding and trade.The West and other powerful nations are just but wolves in sheeps skin.Just like the biblical territorial aggressions,they even today have simply perfected the art of reverse capitalism into a simply loosened democratic seeking cacoon,aimed to divisive infirtration of such loose minds of Henry Olonga.

The armband that he seems to glorify as the death of democracy, which democracy is he talking about, and which model does he paragon the democracy? Does he seem to suggest that by going to Australia and marrying a white woman aged 34 he has made a self discovery of democracy? It is regrettable that Olonga has not had a chance to acclamatise with the political history of Zimbabwe,yet again even if he is Kenyan, he deserves the same element of shame because all African countries suffered servitude and hence share the same historical imbalances. I am sure Olonga made a living in Zimbabwe by playing cricket. He made enough money to go and have two weddings with one in Austrilia, wouldnt be surprised if Howard was a guest at his wedding...Henry Olonga turned Aussie! All the same, it is not too late for the Young man to refocus and start from where he left. History is going to judge him, or his offspring as a way of retribution. Your country is your country and it would be taboo to be driven into callous indifference simply because your paymaster from the West tells you to do so. Yes you could be promised an elitist life style wherever you are, but a people without a history is nothing but nothingness. We have a lot of Zimbabweans in Diaspora across the world, but 95% of them have recently been very supportive of the Homelink project in order to bring to black our economy. At least they are playing a critical role, not just demonising our country. I do hope and pray that you get a chance to read my message to you. At a time our country needs every citizen for national survival, what have you Henry Olonga done now that your wedding gala is over? Food for thought!
GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY, ZIMBABWE.
(Name and e-mail withheld)

MORE OF YOUR SHOUTS PAGE 2»»»



JOIN THE DEBATE ON THIS ARTICLE ON THE NEWZIMBABWE.COM FORUMS

ozzie@newzimbabwe.com


All material copyright newzimbabwe.com
Material may be published or reproduced in any form with appropriate credit to this website